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For over two years now, I've been running this blog. On and off, I've written about the chronology of the Conan of Cimmeria stories (perhaps less often than you might expect from a blog with "chronology" in the title). My first attempt at a chronology was far from scientific and was really done for fun. I'd like to take this opportunity to kind of disown it now. It was my first read on all the stories and was doomed from the start because I (a) read in the order of an existing chronology, which clearly influenced my placements and (b) included the stories somewhat at whim (all the de Camp, Carter, and Nyberg pastiche, odds and ends belonging to others). It was fun to make, but it certainly wasn't my best attempt. Starting in August of 2025, I began a new project. I decided to read and take notes through the stories once again, but to take a much more specific approach.
I blogged my way back through the stories in a periodic column I called "Chronologically Speaking." In every blog post, I made explicit chronological notes, with quotes, about the clues as to where the stories should be placed. Some I feel strongly about, and others I don't. It took me about a year to read back through the stories once again and make notes, and then I've been writing and re-writing this post for about a month and a half. There are quite a few elements you can look for to help you place the stories.
ChronologyClick on an image to go to a story's full post with full commentary on its chronological placement. Many people place "The Frost-Giant's Daughter" as the first story, and I'm keeping it there. Conan seems young and inexperienced with magic or monsters, as well as foolishly headstrong when fighting the frost giants. It makes sense to me that Conan's first adventure away from Cimmeria would be near to Cimmeria. Additionally, lines from "The Phoenix on the Sword" imply that Conan spent some of his youth in or around Asgard and Vanaheim, though it could be a separate sojourn from this story. I think a lot of this story's chronology depends on strong you read Atali's spell to be. Once Conan is ensorcelled (when he goes down to his knees at the beginning of the story), Conan acts somewhat out of character. Perhaps the spell is so strong that he just doesn't respond normally to the monsters and magic he sees. The trickiest aspect of this story's chronology is Conan's line "Far have I wandered, but a woman like you I have never seen." How far has Conan actually wandered? To a young man, he may feel he's wandered very far despite a relatively short journey. Additionally, Conan is not ever described as young, but rather just as a "man." It's not a water-tight placement, but I do feel that it doesn't fit anywhere better. It could be moved to later on the timeline. If it were moved to another placement, I think the place that works best is prior to "Queen of the Black Coast." One line in that story indicates that Conan has been to the "snowy plains and vaulted halls" of the north. However, Conan is still described as "young in years" in "Queen of the Black Coast," so it doesn't solve the problem of if Conan is young in it or not. Thus begin the thief stories. Many older chronologies place the thief stories in a directly east-to-west route (beginning in Zamora and ending in Numalia), but I think they fit much better in a west-to-east configuration. Conan begins in Numalia and works his way through Corinthia, and then Zamora. "The God in the Bowl" is much easier to place than "The Frost-Giant's Daughter," as Conan is clearly very inexperienced at thieving and with cities and civilization in general. He makes bone-headed decisions and fails to read situations throughout the story. Conan is described as a youth who is clad simply, in just a loincloth, sandals, belt, and sword. It's clear to me that Conan is a more experienced thief in the other stories, placing this one firmly first. Additionally, the way Conan's reaction to the serpent god at the end implies that he has not seen this type of magic before: "Conan stared in wonder at the cold classic beauty of that countenance, whose like he had never seen among the sons of men. Neither weakness nor mercy nor cruelty nor kindness, nor any other human emotion was in those features. They might have been the marble mask of a god, carved by a master hand, except for the unmistakable life in them—life cold and strange, such as the Cimmerian had never known and could not understand." This seems to suggest a very early placement as Conan is unfamiliar with sorcery. After "The God in the Bowl," Conan now moves east to an unnamed city-state in Corinthia. "Rogues in the House" is another tricky placement. Conan is still thieving, but at some point is caught alongside a Gunderman mercenary. His garb is exactly the same as all the other thief stories, and he continues some of his "ignorant barbarian" characterizations like when he doesn't understand Thak's mirror system. I do think that it would be fair to move this story after "The Tower of the Elephant," the Nestor synopsis, and the Yaralet fragment as Conan makes his way back toward the Western Ocean for "Queen of the Black Coast," but I don't think it needs to go there. It's clear to me that "The Tower of the Elephant" has been placed first by several chronologies not because it is the first chronological story but because it's a total banger and is a great introduction for the Hyborian Age. Conan's characterization and equipment are similar to his likeness in the other thief stories, but he's also becoming a more successful thief. It's the first thief story where he isn't caught! Conan is still fairly new to civilization. He misses social cues in the tavern, for example, and is mocked by others. But he's clearly a skilled and daring thief at this point, going for a huge score that's very difficult to get to. This is the final thief entry. As a synopsis, it's short and doesn't provide a ton of contextual clues. Conan has apparently gained some notoriety by completely enraging the upper classes in this Zamorian city and I would argue that his actions in the crypt seem informed by his experiences in the Elephant Tower in the previous story. Many people have hypothesized that the Gunderman mentioned in this story and the one in "Rogues in the House" are the same person, linking them to one another, but I don't think that's the case. They're too different in their characterization. Frankly, when placing the Yaralet fragment, you're going to be operating on vibes somewhat. Conan is dressed in the same costume he wore in all the thief stories: sandals and a loincloth, and seems to have gone somewhat overboard on a field of battle. While others looted the corpses of their enemies, Conan was still fighting, suggesting that he is new to the whole mercenary business, missing out on all the spoils. Conan's section of this story places him in a plain, near a city, but it's never actually confirmed that the city he is in proximity to is Yaralet, to which the perspective of the narrative shifts after we leave Conan behind. It's possible that this city is set further east than Zamora, as "Queen of the Black Coast" implies that Conan has been to Hyrkania. Though no country or region is ever named in the Yaralet fragment, I think it makes the most sense that Conan is in or near Hyrkania, or more likely Turan (Turanians seem to be ethnically Hyrkanians). While a mercenary period for the empire of Turan is a commonly-accepted era of Conan's life, this is really all that Howard gave us of that period. It seems that Conan has spent some time working as a mercenary, as he is now clad in a hodgepodge of different cultures' clothes. Some chronologists have used Conan's costume here as an indicator that he has been to the many places represented by his outfit, but I think it could just as easily be that he's picked these items off the dead in battle, as seen in the Yaralet fragment. Conan's dialogue suggests that he's been working as a mercenary but is now "between wars," if you will. One line places this story firmly after his thief days. Much time appears to have passed since the Yaralet fragment. Conan claims to have spent "considerable time" among civilized people and has learned archery from Hyrkanians (it doesn't say with certainty, but Conan's phrasing makes it sound like he's been to Hyrkania, not just met some). Since Conan has only had one mercenary episode so far, it seems that he probably learned archery some time after the Yaralet fragment with Hyrkanians, then likely went west and served in militias in Corinthia. Conan is still explicitly said to be "young in years" at this point, but it's the last time Conan is referred to as young. This story features perhaps the fewest chronological clues of any, but it's not devoid of them. Conan is south on the map, in Kush. He states that he came there to seek his fortune and was "formerly a corsair," implying a piratical stint right before this. Does it take place after he is a Black Coast pirate or a Barachan? Because of the characterization and the name-drop of "Amra," I think it's most likely to be placed right after "Queen of the Black Coast." A very tough placement. Conan is still near Kush, and is dressed like the local tribesmen. His characterization is the most vexing factor here. This is the least patient, most aloof Conan that we see. Some people have hypothesized that it's an older Conan, jaded by age. But I think it's more likely that Conan is still grieving his pirate queen Bêlit, slowly working his way back north. Conan does not exactly always treat women with the utmost respect, but his disdain for Livia seems out of place otherwise. He finishes the story headed in the direction of the Stygian border. A good chunk of time once again seems to have elapsed between stories as Conan appears to have had a sojourn with a Kothian army in and around Stygia. Conan's learned the Stygian language, too. Importantly, Conan has joined the Kothian military under a deposed prince and has fought alongside this army around the middle-meadowlands of the Hyborian Age map. He doesn't appear to be in any especially-favored position within the Kothian military. One tricky bit of chronological puzzling involves this experience. Other stories will refer back to Conan's time with the Kothian military, seemingly describing the same events, while also more clearly terming his band the Free Companions or the kozaks. We get more black lotus references in this story, but, frustratingly, when Conan is asked if he recognizes the substance, he's cut off before he can answer. His answer seems like it would be a clear 'yes.' If I'm being honest, the Gazal fragment probably shouldn't be considered canon. Its DNA is far too similar to "Xuthal of the Dusk," so it seems like an abandoned attempt at just cannibalizing that story. But if it is canon, it absolutely must take place after "Queen of the Black Coast." Conan is recognized as Amra, a name he gained on the Black Coast (though a name that is never actually said in that story; instead it comes from "The Scarlet Citadel"). Conan also seems to have spent some time around Stygia, which we've seen in recent stories, placing this one near to "Xuthal," and "Vale" geographically. Placing these stories together is somewhat of a departure from other chronologies. This story usually appears three to six stories after "Xuthal" in other chronology nerds' placements. So begins Conan's eastern journeys that I think work best when fitted together. Our Cimmerian is considerably further east since we last saw him. Our Cimmerian is still acting as a mercenary. Conan appears to have been with the Free Companions for some time at this point. Though he doesn't have a ton of experience with Turanians yet, he has definitely been to sea before in "Queen of the Black Coast." This seems to be one of the last stories before Conan gains serious leadership experience. A key question here was whether the "Free Companions," the Red Brotherhood pirates, and the "kozaki" are more or less the same group, and I'm inclined to believe they are, or at least that people move between them fairly freely. My reading of the terms is that self-governing mercenaries seem to call themselves the Free Companions, while "kozak" is more of a derogatory term used for them, as it apparently means "wastrel" and Conan seems to chafe at its usage. Conan is now a chief to the kozaks, harrying the well-off citizens of the area. In this chronology, that's really Conan's first sort of command post in his mercenary period. Up until this point, his commissions seem to have been low-ranked, unless you count his first mate role on The Tigress. Conan refers to the black lotus once again, which places this story after "Xuthal of the Dusk." Strangely, Conan also appears to have learned the Nemedian language, which is not something we've seen mentioned before. He's nowhere near Nemedia and hasn't been for some time, so did he pick up Nemedian way back around "Rogues in the House?" It's hard to say. Once again, one thing that vexes a chronology is whether or not the borders between the groups the Free Companions / kozaks and the Red Brotherhood of pirates are permeable. Based on a few lines from this story, I argue that they are. "The People of the Black Circle" comes a little earlier in my chronology than many others, with a lot of previous readers considering it a more final step toward command and kingship. Conan does seem fairly controlled and confident, especially compared to the provincial Conan of the earliest stories. He's become a leader of men. This story must come after Conan's days with the Free Companions, as he makes reference to being their hetman before riding south the Vendhya. This is also one of those stories where Conan verbally describes several things that he's done, such as be a mercenary, a pirate, and plundered for treasure. This story feels to me like the natural conclusion of his eastern adventure with "Iron Shadows in the Moon," "The Devil in Iron," and now he's a full chieftain in "Black Circle." He then heads back west. "A Witch Shall Be Born" largely makes Conan a secondary character, but what he does in that role shows me a man growing in his command abilities. Interestingly, this is one of the only stories that tells us its specific scope, taking place explicitly over the course of about seven months, which is a little long for most sword and sorcery. Conan is now a captain of the guard in the city of Khauran and is recognized as a hetman of the kozaks along the Zaporoskan River, which is where he was in the three previous eastern-set stories. Conan is displaying a tactician mindset similar to that of "The People of the Black Circle" and "Black Colossus" much more so than stories set a little earlier. Notably, Conan ends the story by deciding to stay with the Zuagirs now, as their chief. "A Witch Shall Be Born" ended with Conan deciding to stay with the Zuagir raiders as their chief and now seems to have left them behind, placing this story after "Witch." He seems to have been with the Zuagirs for quite some time- explicitly "many moons"- and he knows their culture well. In this story, he spends a week in Zamboula before leaving westward. "Black Colossus" comes far later in my timeline than in most. The Miller / Clark chronology has it in fourth. Joe Marek puts it at seventh. Dale Rippke set it eighth. Here I am with it in the seventeenth placement. This might be the biggest departure in my thinking in comparison to the traditional wisdom. There are a few reasons why. The story quite obviously takes place after Conan's thieving days by making reference to an old thief comrade in Zamora. It also previews Conan's kingship by speaking of how regally he wears his harness, and a prophecy "crosses his mind." Conan is now a captain of mercenaries, and is clothed in a way that instantly betrays that to Yasmela. He's in a leadership position. Conan now grasps not just social conventions, but displays an understanding of regional politics as well as he scoffs at reform politicians. Because Conan's characterization shows a more sophisticated Conan in a fairly high-ranked position in a well-funded military, I think it makes the most sense to come later, after he's practiced command for the kozaks, the Khauranian guard, and the Zuagirs. One thing that I find interesting about this story is the fact that Conan speaks of having served as a mercenary in Corinthia, an episode of his life never shown in the Howard originals. It's been depicted in some comics, but this time period was left up to the reader's imagination. Is this supposed to refer to "Rogues in the House" when Conan was in Corinthia with a deserter? Conan is now back to being a pirate, but a very different one than we saw aboard the Tigress. From the start of the story, the Cimmerian is a great swimmer, skilled sailor, and experienced pirate. Building on his new maturity we saw in "Black Colossus," Conan is once again very comfortable with social conventions and the codes of the pirates. Due to his skill there, we get to see him display more of that "gigantic mirth" we're always hearing about in the Nemedian Chronicles. It is once again his characterization that is the deciding factor. In other notes, Conan once again mentions Zamora and the black lotus powder, placing the story at least after "Xuthal of the Dusk." What actually counts as a Barachan pirate story seems to me to be a key question of chronology. "The Pool of the Black One" ends with Conan taking control of the Wastrel, becoming a captain more or less. The stories that follow here all make verbal account of Conan's Barachan period, but I don't think those days are over yet. "The Servants of Bit-Yakin" his quite a bit to inform us of its chronological placement. I place it as a middle chapter in his Barachan period. Conan describes having been a pirate from both the Black Coast and Barachan Isles, placing it at least after "Pool of the Black One." Conan's got some notoriety as a "leader of men," which places it fairly late. Conan's thieving abilities are compared to master thieves. And Conan's language abilities are thoroughly impressive here, and he seems much more like the measured Conan of the late stories. There's some very interesting stuff in this story's chronology. Conan notes his extensive time in sea ports and how familiar he's gotten with the borders of Stygia and Kush, which we've seen him explore in previous narratives. Conan also makes mention of the fact that he was a kozak and a Zuagir before this, placing it after his eastern and desert adventures. He also refers to the time he was a hetman to the Afghulis in Vendhya. He does say he's never been a king, though. I place this story after "The Servants of Bit-Yakin" because Conan makes a verbal reference to Punt, over toward the events of that story. "Bit-Yakin" and "Red Nails" make an interesting pair because they seem to be stories set in Conan's Barachan pirate period where he's actually quite a bit inland at the moment, which "The Black Stranger" may explain. He finishes the story headed back toward the western coast, and, possibly, north. This is one of the stories that I think has long had its chronological placement influenced by L. Sprague de Camp. In "The Treasure of Tranicos," the re-written version from de Camp, Conan is still a pirate, but ends the story headed toward the Aquilonian capitol and essentially previews Conan's campaign for the kingship of the country. That's all completely absent in the Howard original, though, which wasn't published in that form until 1987, nearly thirty-five years after de Camp's version. The Conan we see in "The Black Stranger" is a master tactician who is always in control of a situation. That alone sets it pretty late in the timeline. But this story says quite a bit about Conan's Barachan pirate period. Apparently, Conan's ship was wrecked three years ago, implying that Conan has been a pirate for some time longer than that. I think what makes the most sense is that "The Pool of the Black One" sees Conan's earliest Barachan adventures, after which he gains more credibility and command, even his own ship (likely the Wastrel). He's shipwrecked some time three years ago and then heads inland, where he has his adventures in "The Servants of Bit-Yakin" and "Red Nails" before ending up in the Pictish Wilderness in this story. Importantly, Conan ends the story with a desire to return to pirating and get back on the Main," rather than looking for a kingship. For that reason, I place this story as the final Barachan pirate story, prior to his Aquilonian scouting days. There's not much question as to when "Beyond the Black River" takes place; it's usually fairly adjacent to "Red Nails," either before or after it, but very much a later story. And it's not hard to figure out why. Conan describes his earliest days at the siege of Venarium to Balthus. But he says far more than that! Conan spends quite a bit of time explaining his previous adventures, like those as a Barachan pirate, a mercenary captain, a kozak, a thief, and a general. With his physical prowess, wisdom, command experience, and physical traits, Conan begins his time in Aquilonia at the bottom of the ladder (although not entirely, as Conan seems to have chosen to have the freedom to operate outside of the gates of Fort Tuscelan and is given a wide berth to do so) and will move up the ranks quickly. Since its obvious that "Wolves Beyond the Border" takes place as the story immediately preceding Conan's kingship (literally everyone has placed it in the exact same spot), the main chronological question is how much time has passed between "Beyond the Black River" and this story? Our main character, Gault, lays out the events of "Beyond the Black River" as having taken place when he was ten, but Gault seems to be a young man whose age is not commented on by others, so he could be perhaps somewhere between his late teens and mid-twenties. That places around a decade between the two stories. Additionally, the story says that Conan had been a military general in Aquilonia, evidently rising in the ranks fairly quickly and gaining the trust of Aquilonian soldiers. This is confirmed in "The Scarlet Citadel" where it is said that Conan first rode into Aquilonia in service of her armies. Like "Wolves Beyond the Border," there isn't really a question as to when "The Phoenix on the Sword" takes place, but there is some question as to its exact placement in years. It's obviously the first King Conan story (it's also the first Conan story of any kind, but still), but Conan has been king long enough to lose his new-car smell to his subjects. Conan speaks of how public opinion on him has changed: he was met as a liberator when he overthrew Numedides, but the people have had enough time to get nostalgic and build a statue of Numedides in the Temple of Mitra. Perhaps a year or two has passed since Conan took the crown. Conan appears to have now been king for some time. His life, according to this story, is the subject of "a whole cycle of hero-tales." I've wondered if the poet Rinaldo, mentioned in "The Phoenix on the Sword," had a hand in that. Conan also seems to have had some king adventures under his belt, referred to obliquely as, "In swift-moving scenes the pageant of his life passed fleetingly before his mental eye... a king on a golden throne with the lion banner flowing above, and throngs of gay-hued courtiers and ladies on their knees." It's hard to tell when "The Scarlet Citadel" takes place in relation to "Phoenix," but my guess would be between one and five years later. The Hour of the Dragon is Howard's greatest-hits compilation that understandably comes last. It makes numerous references to nearly every episode of Conan's life, including the other king stories like Thoth-Amon and the Black Ring of Stygia. Several bits of narration make it clear that Conan has been king for quite a few years. The fact that no other king Conan stories mention Zenobia, who will become his queen, also seems to place it last. Compared OrderIn this chart, regular REH stories appear in blue. Stories that went unpublished in their original form during REH's lifetime are in yellow cells, and unfinished stories appear in red. I'm only comparing to chronologies that stick to REH material. The Miller/Clark chronology was written prior to the publication of the posthumous stories or fragments, so it omits those. When comparing my order of stories to other chronologizers, I think my placement of "Black Colossus" is the biggest deviation, but there are a few others. I feel strongly about "The Black Stranger" coming before "Beyond the Black River," not after it. Additionally, I place "Xuthal of the Dusk" somewhat earlier than it has traditionally been placed, and I'm the only one to group "Iron Shadows in the Moon," "The Devil in Iron," and "The People of the Black Circle" all together. There's a tendency amongst chronology nerds to give Conan's life periods different name groupings, and if I were to do that, here's how I would break them up. Some don't fit super cleanly into overarching periods, like the Yaralet fragment. 1. The Frost Giant's Daughter Life NarrativeAccording to all of the above, here's a more narrative version of Conan's life.
Conan is born on a battlefield. At the age of fourteen, Conan helps siege the Aquilonian outpost of Fort Venarium, which is referred to in "Beyond the Black River." As a young man, Conan leaves Cimmeria to wander. He ends up north in Vanaheim, where we see the events of "The Frost-Giant's Daughter." Conan encounters magic and monsters for the first time. Conan wanders south to civilization for the first time. He takes up thievery to survive in Numalia, where we see the events of "The God in the Bowl." Conan heads east to Corinthia where he befriends a Gunderman deserter and continues to work as a thief. We see the events of "Rogues in the House." Conan continues to wander east, ending up in the Zamorian city of thieves. He attempts his most daring score yet in "The Tower of the Elephant" and stays in Zamora for some time where we also see the events of the Nestor synopsis. Conan quits thieving and decides to try his hand at mercenary work. Early on in this endeavor, we see the events of the Yaralet fragment. In Hyrkania, Conan learns archery. "Black Colossus" mentions a period in Conan's life in which he was a mercenary for the city-states of Corinthia. I think this is the most likely position for that period to take place. On his way west from Yaralet, Conan grows in his mercenary skills for Corinthia. Conan travels west to Argos looking for work where he joins the pirate crew of The Tigress. Conan spends as many as a few years aboard the ship and we see the events of "Queen of the Black Coast." Mourning and without a ship farther south than he's ever been, Conan takes up mercenary work in the jungles of Kush. We see the events of the Shumballa fragment. Conan joins the Bamula tribe for a while as a warrior where the events of "The Vale of Lost Women" take place. Livia in tow, Conan heads toward the more temperate parts of the map, starting with Stygia. The Cimmerian ends up in Koth where he enlists in Prince Almuric's army as a member of the Free Companions for the first time. Conan fights with this force for some time and harries the lands of several countries including Koth, Turan, and a return to Zamora. It is likely that Conan visits the spider city of Yezud. Conan spends at least several months fighting with the Free Companions before becoming temporarily separated from the other Free Companions and ending up in Xuthal. "Xuthal of the Dusk" and the Gazal fragment take place here. Still with the Free Companions, Conan heads significantly more east than he's ever been. On the Vilayet Sea, the events of "Iron Shadows in the Moon" and "The Devil in Iron" take place. Conan begins to take a leadership role in his mercenary groups. Before traveling south to Vendhya, Conan becomes the hetman of a tribe of Afghuli hillmen in a region called Ghor. He then kidnaps the Devi Yasmina and we see the events of "The People of the Black Circle." Growing in his leadership and tactical skills, Conan heads to more familiar western climes and becomes a guard for the city of Khauran. "A Witch Shall Be Born" takes place over the course of seven months he spends in the city. He ends the story as a chief of the Zuagir raiders. Having spent at least several months with the Zuagirs, Conan parts with the group. He spends a week in the desert city of Zamboula and the events of "The Man-Eaters of Zamboula" take place. Conan continues to work as a mercenary when he becomes enlisted in the army of Khoraja, acting as a general for the first time. This is shown in "Black Colossus." Conan eventually heads back to the western ocean to once again become a pirate. While aboard the ship The Wastrel, he travels to a mysterious isle and becomes captain of the ship in "The Pool of the Black One." At some time after the conclusion of the story, Conan becomes shipwrecked. After losing his ship, Conan spends three years inland where his whereabouts are hard to track. He goes to Punt where we see the events of "The Servants of Bit-Yakin" and then to the borders of Stygia where "Red Nails" takes place. He ends up heading north after that. Far to the north in the Pictish Wilderness, Conan returns to pirating with the Barachans in "The Black Stranger." Leaving the pirate life behind, Conan becomes a scout in the border regions of Aquilonia. He unsuccessfully defends Fort Tuscelan against Pictish forces in "Beyond the Black River." Conan gradually rises in the ranks of the Aquilonian military afterword. Around ten years after the conclusion of "Beyond the Black River," Conan, now a general for the Aquilonian military, wages a campaign against King Numedides of Aquilonia in "Wolves Beyond the Border." He takes the throne as he strangles Numedides with his own hands. Around a year later, Conan deals with a coup attempt in "The Phoenix on the Sword." Between one and five years after that, Conan is kidnapped and then fights a war in "The Scarlet Citadel." A few years after that, Conan leads his kingdom against Xaltotun's invasion in The Hour of the Dragon. At the end of it, he takes the servant girl Zenobia for his queen.
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Chronologically Speaking is a series focused solely on placing the Conan of Cimmeria stories in timeline order. It's an analysis of only the text of Robert E. Howard's original Conan tales. I'm examining the stories one at a time, in publication order, to show explicit chronological notes to order the stories. This is our final regular entry. Robert E. Howard wrote "The Vale of Lost Women" around February of 1933, the twelfth Conan story he'd written in fairly quick succession, and sent it to Weird Tales. Though there are no records remaining of the rejection, it appears to have been rejected by Farnsworth Wright, and rightfully so. But that rejection was a blow to Howard that caused him to move on from his Cimmerian barbarian for nearly a year, as he turned his prospects to other characters and genres and wouldn't return to writing the character until the end of 1933. "Vale" was apparently inspired by some autobiographical elements- stories he'd seen occurring to women in his life- but was completely overrun by Howard's virile racial discomfort and disgust. It becomes slightly stronger when the narrative moves to its second half in the titular valley for lost women, but it's ultimately a pretty unsuccessful story. It's also a little hard to place. Let's see what chronological markers we have.
These chronological markers aren't extremely strong, and they don't tie the story to one, single time in Conan's life. Much hay has been made over the decades about the fact that the Conan we see here seems more stern and short with Livia than many other depictions of the character. Some have considered this to be due to Conan grieving Bêlit following "Queen of the Black Coast." Some have assumed this is an older, more jaded Conan. I think the first possibility seems the more likely of the two. This story could take place when Conan returns to some of the more southern reaches of the map later in his wanderings, like in stories like "Red Nails" and "The Servants of Bit-Yakin," but I think it's more likely that it is set with the other stories after "Black Coast" when Conan appears to hang around the south. It seems most likely to me that Conan sets The Tigress aflame at the end of "Queen of the Black Coast," then continues through the jungles of Kush on foot. Conan then becomes a mercenary in the jungles of the south for a time, seen in the Shumballa fragment ("The Snout in the Dark") and "The Vale of Lost Women," before heading back toward the more northern civilizations at Livia's behest. Then, he reaches the edges of Stygia in "Xuthal of the Dusk" and joins up with slightly more-northern armies in the Gazal fragment ("Drums of Tombalku"). Here's the updated chronology. I'll make a post capping it all off soon.
Chronologically Speaking is a series focused solely on placing the Conan of Cimmeria stories in timeline order. It's an analysis of only the text of Robert E. Howard's original Conan tales. I'm examining the stories one at a time, in publication order, to show explicit chronological notes to order the stories. "Wolves Beyond the Border" is not a particularly good Howard story, even when attempting to ignore its unfinished nature, but it is a particularly interesting story in what it represents for Robert E. Howard when he was writing it. As Patrice Louinet illustrates in his "Hyborian Genesis" essay, "Wolves Beyond the Border" appears to us as an abandoned psuedo-sequel to "Beyond the Black River," but actually represents a large stepping stone toward Howard's Hyborian Age western. Like a pumped-up version of "A Witch Shall Be Born," in which Conan is mostly a secondary character, this story pushes him all the way to the periphery. He's responsible for the political and civil war mire in which the story is set, but really none of the action itself. REH was perhaps growing a little tired of the Cimmerian, saying to Novalyne Price toward the end of 1934 that he'd prefer to write stories of America now. This combination of growing distant from Conan and desiring to set his stories in America yielded "Wolves Beyond the Border," an unmistakably western story in which Conan is only mentioned, far away from the narrative's action, fighting against King Namedides for control of Aquilonia. Concepts introduced in this story like the people of Westermarck and Fort Tuscelan in Conajohara, would be carried over into "Beyond the Black River" where they would become classic Conan elements of one of the greatest REH creations. Though it was written in 1934, the story wasn't published in its unadulterated Howard draft form until 2001. By then, the de Camp version had been floating around in Conan the Usurper for over 30 years. Because of a few straightforward lines in this story, it's pretty easy to place "Wolves Beyond the Border" in the timeline:
It's very clear that "Wolves" takes place after "Black River" and immediately preceding Conan's kingship. I generally try not to guess at specific spans of time between stories, but I think it's fairly easy here. "Beyond the Black River" probably occurred about ten years ago. "The Phoenix on the Sword," assuming Conan takes the throne without an extended war, will probably occur in the next five to ten, seeing as the populace will have had time to grow nostalgic for their old leader, but quickly enough that Conan seems annoyed by this turn of events. will note that this is an even smoother transition than the chronology proposed by L. Sprague de Camp, where Conan ends up back at sea for a little while after "Black River" in his "Treasure of Tranicos" version of events. Here's the updated chronology. Only one more entry to go!
Chronologically Speaking is a series focused solely on placing the Conan of Cimmeria stories in timeline order. It's an analysis of only the text of Robert E. Howard's original Conan tales. I'm examining the stories one at a time, in publication order, to show explicit chronological notes to order the stories. We have before us quite the head-scratcher. The Yaralet fragment, also known by the monikers "Unititled draft (The battle stretched silent...)" and "The Hand of Nergal," is an extremely small blip in the Conan mythos. Even the Lin Carter edit (which I argue is the only thing people should be calling "The Hand of Nergal," seeing as Howard's short fragment doesn't mention Nergal at all) seems to be nobody's favorite. They're almost too different to really be considered related. All the "Nergal" version carries over is the image of Conan on a battlefield and an oppressive city named Yaralet. According to Patrice Louinet in his Hyborian Genesis essay, this fragment was probably written in early 1933, though Louinet also says he has a hard time placing it. "It is difficult to assign a precise date to the Conan fragments that appear in this volume... Both were written in 1933, the second after April 1933. It is tempting to see them as false starts toward resuming the Conan series after a lapse of several months." The Carter version appeared in 1968, with the Howard fragment not being made public until it appeared in the "Miscellanea" section of 1976's The Last Celt, where it appears with some other drafts and materials. And because it's so short, there's also not a ton to take from it chronologically.
Those are the only clues given as to when this story might take place; that's not a whole lot to go on. Conan is dressed nearly identically to his appearances in other early mercenary stories, like "Xuthal of the Dusk" and "Iron Shadows in the Moon." "Xuthal" is one of his first mercenary stories within the chronology I've laid out here, and seeing as Conan appears here as a savage, somewhat inexperienced mercenary here, I think it stands to reason that the two may be close in time to one another. I don't want to give the clothes too much weight, because Conan appears to be a somewhat experienced mercenary at the start of "Queen of the Black Coast," when he's wearing much more ornate armor. I wondered for quite some time how much to make of the fact that the unnamed woman we see briefly is white (she has "white limbs"), seeing as Howard's attitudes toward race usually caused him to note people's skin colors. "Xuthal" takes place near to Stygia and does it make more sense for this story to take place further north if the woman were white? Or would Howard make her darker-skinned by terming her "dusky" or black? Ultimately, I decided not to make too much of this. Conan comes across people who are non-native to regions all the time. Interestingly enough, this story is usually placed as Conan's Turanian mercenary episode, but it does not mention Turan at all, nor is the city of Yaralet ever placed in any country on the map (on many maps, people place Yaralet in the northern part of Turan, close to the Vilayet Sea). If it does not take place in Turan, then Conan's Turanian mercenary period is essentially confined in the entire canon to just a line or two in which he says that he learned archery from the Hyrkanians. I've left these wonderings in above so that you can see my thought process and check me if you think I'm incorrect. This story doesn't honestly have a very good placement anywhere in the timeline. What I've decided to go with is the idea that it's probably the first first mercenary story. I think it makes somewhat thematic sense to have Conan be struggling to loot in one story and then have become much better at it for the beginning of "Queen of the Black Coast," when his outfit seems to be entirely looted, before losing it all aboard the Tigress down south. This isn't exactly a revolutionary placement, but I think I've put it here for different reasons than most chronologizers. I'd love to hear your thoughts. Also, thank you to Bobby Derie from Deep Cuts in a Lovecraftian Vein for some help with this one. Here's our nearly-completed chronology. Just a few more entries to go!
Chronologically Speaking is a series focused solely on placing the Conan of Cimmeria stories in timeline order. It's an analysis of only the text of Robert E. Howard's original Conan tales. I'm examining the stories one at a time, in publication order, to show explicit chronological notes to order the stories. We've got a live one today. In January of 1935, Robert E. Howard was basking in the acceptance of his story "Beyond the Black River" for Weird Tales, which editor Farnsworth Wright called "his best Conan story so far." Howard seemed jazzed about the direction of the story, telling HP Lovecraft in a letter that he would like to try his hand at a longer yarn, "of the same style, a serial of four or five parts." "The Black Stranger" was probably written soon after, as Patrice Louinet notes in his essay "Hyborian Genesis" that there are partial drafts of other stories found on the backs of the pages of "The Black Stranger" that seem to be from the end of 1934 or very beginning of 1935. This leads Louinet to believe that it was probably written in January or February of 1935. Another thing that I love about what Louinet has to say of the story is that it is a criminally-overlooked story: "The Black Stranger has never received the critical attention it is due, primarily because it was not published in its original form until 1987, when Karl Edward Wagner included it in an anthology. In all its previous appearances, the story had been mercilessly butchered. The tale is simple enough on its surface, mixing elements of piratical adventure and Indian warfare, but should definitely not be dismissed in a cavalier way, as has been done sometimes. The Black Stranger is an extremely complex tale once one has understood that it is replete, consciously or unconsciously, with autobiographical elements, much more so than any of the stories Howard had written to date." Patrice is right. For a long time, "Black Stranger" was swallowed up by the L. Sprague de Camp version, known as "The Treasure of Tranicos" as well as two other versions of the story, neither of which feature Conan. In L. Sprague de Camp's interesting but somewhat self-important essay "The Trail of Tranicos," de Camp notes that Glenn Lord thinks the story is a little older than Louinet does, perhaps written in 1933 or 34, but doesn't list any reasons why. The other rewritten versions of this story include "Black Vulmea's Vengeance," published in Golden Fleece and the variant "Swords of the Red Brotherhood." de Camp's "Treasure of Tranicos" version itself had several different versions, edited by Lester Del Rey seemingly without de Camp's permission (how do you like it, Sprague?). "Treasure of Tranicos" was specifically tied more intentionally to the rest of the Conan mythos by de Camp, inserting Thoth-Amon, King Numedides, and the Aquilonian revolution that seats Conan on the throne. Howard's original cut would not see publication in full until 1987, when it was included by Karl Edward Wagner in his first Echoes of Valor collection, a series well worth the money if you find it available. de Camp and Wagner continue to disagree about the real-life chronology of the manuscript, with de Camp saying, "There is reason to believe that the pirate version came before the Conan one" and Wagner countering, "I have the photocopy of Howard's original manuscript of 'The Black Stranger', which clearly shows Howard's efforts to change the story from the Conan to the Black Vulmea version." I agree with Louinet that it's unfortunate that this story seems so maligned by the other versions of it that came after it (well, technically before it). It has the story threads knotted up and difficult to untangle. Because of de Camp's meddling, I think the story's chronology has historically been misplaced. Every single other notable chronology places this story after "Beyond the Black River," and before "Wolves Beyond the Border." But I think they're all wrong. I was wrong too. When I first blogged about this story in October of 2024, I set it as part of a "Pictish trilogy" with "Black River" and "Moon of Blood." But I now think that was totally incorrect. Let's look at our chronological markers.
Most of these chronological clues above point to this story being a later one, but the last two limit how late it can be. Because Conan goes back to being a Barachan pirate at the end of it, that leads me to believe that "The Black Stranger" is the last Barachan pirate story, not the last story prior to Conan's kingship. The fact that this story takes place so close to "Beyond the Black River," geographically speaking, I think has been historically overrated. The "Tranicos" version does explicitly tie it more directly to Conan's kingship, so it makes sense to put it later if that's the version you're using, but that's not the Howard original. The traditional wisdom has been that this story acts as a bridge between Conan's scouting days and his kingship, but I argue that it would more correctly be seen as a bridge between Conan's final pirate period and his Aquilonian scouting. I think it's likely that in the three years between Conan's ship going down in the ocean and him rearing his head again in "Black Stranger," Conan may have disappeared inland, to see the events of "The Servants of Bit-Yakin" and "Red Nails" take place, both of which mention Conan's recent Barachan pirate period. Though, if we want to assume Conan's Barachan period is longer, it could take place after "The Pool of the Black One" and prior to "The Servants of Bit-Yakin." "The Black Stranger" is a very interesting Conan story. It feels like a cross between Howard's Pictish wilderness story "Beyond the Black River" and the Barachan pirate story "The Pool of the Black One." It's very good, and its chronology was far more interesting to mull over than I thought it would be. Thus stands our most updated version of the chronology.
Chronologically Speaking is a series focused solely on placing the Conan of Cimmeria stories in timeline order. It's an analysis of only the text of Robert E. Howard's original Conan tales. I'm examining the stories one at a time, in publication order, to show explicit chronological notes to order the stories. "Drums of Tombalku" is a title given to an untitled synopsis and fragment left behind by Robert E. Howard, first published in 1986 as the fragment and then in 1988 as its synopsis. The untitled work, set near and in an ancient city named Gazal, was given its "Drums of Tombalku" title by L. Sprague de Camp when he heavily edited the work and prepared it for publishing in 1966's Conan the Adventurer. Patrice Louinet notes in "Hyborian Genesis" that Howard's 29-page draft originated as his attempt at a novel, probably written in mid-March 1934 after he wrote "The People of the Black Circle." While the novel ultimately didn't come to fruition in this form, Louinet notes that one line about an invasion of Aquilonia from Nemedia would become the framing device for Howard's successful novel attempt: The Hour of the Dragon. The Gazal fragment is a little peculiar in that Conan is really only a supporting character who shows up toward the end of the fragment. I will defend this fragmentary narrative insofar that it has one near-great horror sequence within the red tower of Gazal. And I wonder how many copies of The Complete Chronicles of Conan have the same typo mine has: Amalric is referred to as "Almaric" on page 827. Was that Howard's typo, or just the book's? Let's see what sort of chronological markers this thing has:
Due to Howard's penchant for making subtle changes to things like names (in all likelihood, just forgetting what he had done the first time), I believe all the above accounts are of the same time in Conan's life. It seems like after Conan left the Black Corsairs at the end of "Queen of the Black Coast," on his way north he became part of the Free Companions who were working in service of Koth's army. Or perhaps the Free Companions tenure grew out of his time with Koth, continuing on with some of the other veterans following the dissolution of the Kothian army. Since the story must follow "Queen of the Black Coast" and is in conversation with "Xuthal" and "Iron Shadows," it seems to be the eighth or ninth story in our chronology right now. Actually though, I think this story is so close in premise and structure that I would probably consider it non-canonical. It rhymes far too much with "Xuthal of the Dusk" to ignore - "Xuthal" is clearly the completed version of this fragment. But if it goes anywhere on the chronology, it goes adjacent to it. These stories are not traditionally grouped very close together. The chronologies from Miller/Clark/de Camp, Robert Jordan, Dale Rippke, and William Galen Gray all have them fairly spread out. Only the Joe Marek chronology really groups them very closely. 1. The Frost-Giant's Daughter
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