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Chronologically Speaking is a series focused solely on placing the Conan of Cimmeria stories in timeline order. It's an analysis of only the text of Robert E. Howard's original Conan tales. I'm examining the stories one at a time, in publication order, to show explicit chronological notes to order the stories. "The Frost-Giant's Daughter," like many posthumously-published Conan stories, had a pretty circuitous path to publication. I spent a while talking about that path in a recent video I did called "The First(?) Conan Story: The Frost-Giant's Daughter." If you want to go in-depth about the very interesting publishing history of the story, you can watch that video, but here's the much-abbreviated version. "The Frost-Giant's Daughter" was written in March 1932, very soon after "The Phoenix on the Sword," making it the second Conan story written, and the first conceived as a Conan story. It was rejected by Weird Tales editor Farnsworth Wright. Howard sent the story to the fanzine The Fantasy Fan in late 1933 after having made edits to it, retitling it "The Frost King's Daughter," before the zine published it under the title "Gods of the North" in March 1934. L. Sprague de Camp made further edits to the story and published his version in 1953 in the magazine Fantasy Fiction and then the Gnome Press book The Coming of Conan. But the original, unadulterated Howard cut of "The Frost-Giant's Daughter" would not be widely available until it was published in 1976 collection Rogues in the House from the publishing house Donald Grant. That's almost 45 years from pen to publication! It also really muddies the waters as to what version you're reading at any given time. Many places online will present the edited de Camp text or the original Howard text and yet attribute them to The Fantasy Fan's '34 version. But enough about our real-life placement of the story. This is one of Howard's shortest Conan stories (about 3000 words) and one of the most difficult to place chronologically. It's not overflowing with timeline markers and those that are there need to be interpreted pretty heavily.
While this is great art, a small part of me always bristles at dark depictions of this story. The story is blindingly bright. With just the above to guide us, I don't think that the story is very strongly anchored to any specific point in Conan's life. In this series, I ignore all paratext and focus only on the text of Howard's stories, but just for fun, let's see what others have said. John D. Clark's revised chronology places the story after "Queen of the Black Coast," but I think his reasoning is thin: Conan wears a horned helmet in both: "His horned helmet was such as was worn by the golden-haired Aesir of Nordheim." As I've explored before, I find it more likely that Conan wears or comes across or owns similar items like a horned helmet or red cloak more often than once. Howard himself had a word on the subject in his famous correspondence with Clark and P. Schuyler Miller that helped birth "A Probable Outline of Conan's Career" in 1936. Howard wrote, "There was a space of about a year between Vanarium and his entrance into the thief-city of Zamora. During this time he returned to the northern territories of his tribe, and made his first journey beyond the boundaries of Cimmeria. This, strange to say, was north instead of south. Why or how, I am not certain, but he spent some months among a tribe of the Aesir, fighting with the Vanir and the Hyperboreans, and developing a hate for the latter which lasted all his life and later affected his policies as King of Aquilonia. Captured by them, he escaped southward in time to make his debut in print." So it seems likely that Howard considered this the first story too, even prior to its official publication. Dale Rippke's Dark Storm Chronology, which I think is one of the best out there, opines that "The Frost-Giant's Daughter" may have been moved out of first place because of the rapey vibes, choosing a more palatable story to be the introduction if someone was choosing to read chronologically. Here's a fun side note: in the "Gods of the North" version published in The Fantasy Fan in 1934, Conan is swapped out for "Amra of Akbitana." This version, assuming Amra and Conan have the same life trajectory, would have to place the story much, much later in the chronology, since Amra states exactly how far he has wandered: "Far have I wandered, from Zingara to the Sea of Vilayet, in Stygia and Kush, and the country of the Hyrkanians; but a woman like you I have never seen." This would place the story at least after a mercenary and pirate period. Ignoring everyone else's two cents on the subject finally brings me to sharing my placement. I am indeed putting "The Frost-Giant's Daughter" as the very first Conan tale. This is not because I think it's strongly tied to his youth - it's not - but because it doesn't really fit anywhere better. Howard had conceived of Asgard and Vanaheim and the wars between their people in "The Phoenix on the Sword," the very first Conan story to be published, so perhaps he felt he'd expand on the idea in the second. In relation to other tales, it probably needs to happen before "Queen of the Black Coast," which I have listed sixth. But the characterization of Conan seems closer to the "God in the Bowl" Conan than any other, so I place it first. Here's the updated chronology:
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Chronologically Speaking is a series focused solely on placing the Conan of Cimmeria stories in timeline order. It's an analysis of only the text of Robert E. Howard's original Conan tales. I'm examining the stories one at a time, in publication order, to show explicit chronological notes to order the stories. If you've been following this series, you know that we're now past the end of stories which Robert E. Howard saw published in his lifetime. Like the Nestor synopsis, better known under the title "The Hall of the Dead," given to it by L. Sprague de Camp, was not released in its original REH form for decades. Likewise, "The God in the Bowl" was out for decades, with heavy de Camp edits, for over two decades before the original was published. The de Camp version made the page in the magazine Space Science Fiction (a fitting place to publish it, since it is definitely a science fiction story set in space) in September 1952, though it had been written as just the third Conan story, all the way back in 1932. The version that appeared in Space Science Fiction was heavily edited by L. Sprague de Camp, and the original Howard version wouldn't see print until 1975 in the Donald Grant "The Tower of the Elephant" publication. As a reminder, I'm not only using the Howard version for this column. This story is quite a bit shorter than most of Howard's Conan stories, but is really interesting, chronologically speaking. There's quite a bit of debate about the earliest Conan stories ("The Frost-Giant's Daughter" and this one in particular are rather controversial) and which order the thief stories occur in. The traditional wisdom is that the thief stories take place in an east-to-west direction: that is, we go from Zamora to Corinthia to Nemedia ("The Tower of the Elephant," "The Hall of the Dead," "Rogues in the House," then "The God in the Bowl"). That's the way I thought it should go, and it's the way I followed when I did my first chronology. But I think a close reading of the stories supports the idea that it should go from west-to-east, starting with Numalia in Nemedia before going to the unnamed Corinthian city-state, and finishing in Zamora the Accursed, AKA the City of Thieves. I also think that the pendulum is shifting in this direction, as it appears to be the chronology that Heroic Signatures and Titan Comics are following as well. Here are our chronological hints:
I think the traditional wisdom stated up top makes a little more sense if you're also including the L. Sprague de Camp material in your chronology- "Legions of the Dead" and "The Thing in the Crypt" send Conan more eastward across Hyperborea, but the fact that Conan seems so naïve (I love the line in which Arus indignantly tells him "I am the watchman, knave!" That shit is hilarious) and poor at thieving puts this story more to the front. If you'll notice, this moves "Rogues in the House" up several placement as well. Additionally, I think there's a not-insignificant desire to put "The Tower of the Elephant" as the first thief story (if not the first Conan story altogether) because it's such a good one and works as a fantastic introduction to the character and the world, but if we're applying a formalist approach to the chronology, we have to ignore that. I have to place it as the first of the thief stories. That brings our chronology to this:
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